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Rik
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blanka wrote:
they are usually on the microcontrollor.

Yeah, but that's the date the chip was manufactured... It could have (in fact, likely was) made months before the game was assembled and put in stores. Also, if the game was popular, new batches would be made and the dates would be different.

That's not an indication of when the game was first released in stores...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know, but it gives a good idea about batches. Also, it sets aside some misconception like Dig Dug or Ms Pac Man being from 1982. There are no games with CPU's from 1982, so it can't be from that year.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ms Pac-Man (Coleco) was released in 1983 (which I see now is incorrect on the website, excuse me while I go fix that... Cool )

Not quite sure about Dig Dug, but I have Amidar listed as 1981, so DD is probably 82 or 83... (Although that information was from the original FAQ that I didn't create, so I'm not sure where it came from...)

You can't really say 'there are no games with CPU dates from 1982' as I'm sure you have only seen very few of them... Mr. Green It's possible a small run was done toward the end of 1982, and as the game proved popular they manufactured more throughout 83 or something...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I opened 2 dig dugs, 4 amidars and 1 jungler
All digdugs were from june 83, the amidars from april 83 and the jungler from august 83.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried to look at one of my Dig Dugs, do you have to take the VFD off to see the writing on the chip? The side I could see was just black, but I couldn't tell if it was painted over or if I was just looking at the bottom of it...

(I hate when the CPUs are under the VFD like that... Evil or Very Mad )
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did yes. See the little movie in my 2kboffun facebook page Wink. I know, it sucks. Everything for correct dating Neutral
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waco Tic-Tac-Toe doesn't count as electronic? It came out in 1972.

http://www.handheldmuseum.com/Misc/WacoTicTacToe.htm

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tic-Tac-Toe is 'electric', not 'electronic'...

'Electronic' means digital electronics (microchips, transistors, etc). TTT is just a bunch of switches and light bulbs. There's even older games that would qualify as 'electric' like the Cragstan Periscope game from the 60s.

So, for 'electronic' games, Mattel Auto Race is still the first.

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