Are these part of the family?

[tanatron]

I was thinking about these electromechanical games from Waco dated back to the early 70's.
I allready have two poker games that I got for little money, but I was wondering if they all be considered for an handheld collection.Like these :

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-WA.....dZViewItem

or

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Wa.....dZViewItem

or

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-El.....dZViewItem


If not,why not?


Alex

[Neil UK]

Hi Alex,
The Waco Computer Derby is in the Museum in the Misc section and I've put more info about it on the Forum

http://www.handheldmuseum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=677

I also have the Roulette boxed. I plan to put some info on the Forum about it when I get chance.

These two games have a very prominant place in my collection. The pic below was taken before I won my Roulette.



I would Love that Dice game to go with them. I have only seen one before. I wonder if this would complete the set or are there more versions? Does anybody know?

I consider them to be as or more valid to be in my collection than several other games I have. I think their great

I also have one of those '21 Blackjack' games but it is not with the rest of my collection as I bought it when I was just starting collecting and I didn't realise how different it was, e.g. no lights involved in the gameplay at all.

Neil.

[Rik]

Yeah, the Waco round games are definitely fair game... I never really considered the slot-machine types ones though, as they are just little mechanical spring-loaded games... But, I have no problem adding them if people think they are 'valid'.

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[Rik]

[tanatron]

I was making a more subtle consideration:when you make a collection of some items ,you know what to buy and what not to buy.You don't have to many margins of discretion,whether you collect coins ,stamps.....cars or whatever.But since I started collecting this question kept puzzling my mind:where is the difference between a simple child game,not worth of any collecting or at best belonging to other types of collections,and what is considered a HANDHELD or a TABLETOP.Take the Coleco Space Blaster or the BigTrack or the Milton Bradley Star Bird.
I bought in France this BLUE Box game :

It has a real LCD screen it makes a LOT of noise and is quite like some Tomy games.
Can this be included?Or it's just one of the thousends electronic toys worth ,from a collectible point of view,nothing?
Again I'm asking me(you).Where are the borders?Year of manifacturing? Size?Exterior aspects?orTechnical reasons like being run on any type of electric power?




Alex

Ps-I too collect the Arcade Tomys.They are nice and just like theyre battery powered cousins.

[Neil UK]

I'm glad to say that that type of large flight/racing game would never be in my collection as they mostly have LCD screens. If they had VFD screens I would be torn as to wether to collect them or not. Their size and controls would put me off somewhat, as does their somewhat tacky design.

I can see people such as Linda or Rik could collect these games for compeatism but I think even they would be put off by their lack of desirability.

The borders for my collection would be :-

Bulb, LED or VFD 'display' of some sort (must light up in some way) but I do have 1 or 2 exceptions.

Must be powered in some way to light the 'display'

Made no later than 1985 (as that's when the VFD games stopped being made).

Must be a game and not a toy. E.g. try to achieve something like bettering your high score not just driving around like Bigtrak.

Must not cost more than about £30 including P+P .

Neil.

[Rik]

Okay Neil, here you go:

http://www.handheldmuseum.com/Bandai/SpaceHurricane.htm

Do you collect it or not?
That's the biggest VFD screen game I have seen... (But it also looks cool, so it's got that going for it.)

As for what to collect, I used to have the Tomy Turnin' Turbo Dashboard, and ended up selling it... while they are definitely worthy of inclusion into the online Museum database, they just aren't for me as far as collecting. The only really big game I have is the Afterburner tabletop:
http://www.handheldmuseum.com/Tiger/Afterburner.htm
Which I'm convinced is just the handheld Afterburner put in a _HUGE_ case...

These are some of my criteria for what I actively collect:
Brand for some games (anything Actronics/Hanzawa, Coleco, Entex and Mattel I'd go after)
Anything with a full LED display* or VFD display.
In most cases, any game based on a real arcade game (made pre-1987ish)
In some cases, any game based on a movie (made pre-1990ish)
Most LCD games pre-1982/1983 (like Tigers especially).

And then the catch-all: Any game that I think is just kinda cool in some way...

Regardless of the 'guidelines', I tend to gear my collection to pre-1985 games. But I will, of course, put anything and everything on the website...

* 'Full LED' display means a game that actually has large quantity of LEDs used as a play field, not just one or two (and not just LED digits for score). This usually means various Space Invaders clones and all the LED sports games from the early days...

Rik

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[Neil UK]

That Space Hurricane would look great next to my Coleco Zaxxon and looks like an upscaled Romtec Cosmic Invaders

http://www.handheldmuseum.com/Romtec/CosmicInvaders.htm .

I would definately like to have one in my collection.

The one thing that puts me off it a little bit is the size of the joystick, but I bet that joystick makes it one of Linda's all time favourite games

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