Official 'COOL ITEM ON EBAY!' thread...

[Neil UK]

You say you were the second highest bidder, but it looks like you bid the same amount. How can he bid the same amount 5 times?

1 cent more and it was yours I think!

Neil.

[Dan]

[Neil UK]

But if the winner had bid higher then Ebay would have automatically bid up to the next highest bid point or to the winners maximum bid (whichever is the lower). As this didn't happen they must have bid exactly the same amount.

So I still think he lost it by 1 cent.

That's how it works on UK Ebay anyway

Neil.

[tanatron]

If you look at the levels of his bids that were surpassed by Panic Button,1500,1600,1700,1800 , he made every step by $ 100 so my guess is that the bids that were not beaten were of 1900,2000,2100,and finally $2200. That's the way I've always seen thing go on Ebay when someone maked multiple bids raising his highest one.
Neil, if you look at eBays rules if there are 2 bids of the same amount the one that was made before the other will be the winner.They both made the 1800 offer but since he made a higher bid of approximately $2200, that was the level (1800) thet the guy will pay for the game.

Alex
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[Neil UK]

Hi Alex,
I agree that if 2 bids are equal then the person who bid first will win. I thought thought that if the winner had bid 1900,2000 etc as you suggest then the winning bid would be higher than the 1800. After all it is a winning bid and not just an equal bid to another earlier bid.

For example, when you won the Witty bid from me yesterday you paid exactly £1 more than my highest bid, which as you bid more than me is fair enough (though it hurts to say that ).

Are you saying that if you had bid the same as my maximum and earlier than me, then put a higher bid in before I bid then you would have won the Witty for the £23.64 that I bid? I think this is what you are saying happened with Panic Attack bids.

If this is a clever way of reducing the size of our winning bids, maybe we should all put in many small increment bids rather than one or two bigger bids.

http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=370107553642

Neil.

[Rik]

Yeah, that actually doesn't make sense... Tuba made all of his bids on Nov 11th. He made multiple bids, so that explains the multiple $1800's... Panic placed his bid on Nov15th, and was auto-outbid by Tuba... So the bid should have gone up to $1850 (or whatever the next increment is).

They only way (that I can think of) for the bidding to end like it would be if Tuba had bid $1800, Panic matched that bid (but lost), and then Tuba decided to raise his bid after that time to insure the win... But the time-stamps on the bids don't reflect that...

Maybe I'm missing something...

Maybe if you place a 1700, 1800, and 1900 bid separately, and someone else bids 1800, the system won't automatically increase the bid, just indicate that you lost because someone else bid that amount first... That could be a handy trick to save a little money on auto-increments...

Rik

[tanatron]

One thing I would like to ask Panic Button, and I think will clear things up, is when he placed his $1800 bid 9 seconds before the end of the auction (16-nov-08 01:51:52 CET - 16-nov-08 01:52:01 CET) what was the message that the eBay system gave him.
In red letters telling him that his bid was not enough, inviting him to raise it?
Anyway, this auctions explains ,at least to me, what I always read about eBays rules, and never raelly understood clearly and most of all practicably.What do they mean when they say that when 2 bids are of the same amount , the one made before the other is the one that wins.How could there be 2 equal bids ? Maybe this is just the case.

Alex
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[tanatron]

I'm not going for this Tomy Monster Burger game as I have already a never used one, But I made 4 bids at the 10,20,30,40 level.
Will someone please make a $30 or $40 bid? (it will surely go higher anyway, so its just a kind of an experiment).

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA.....amp;ih=008

Alex
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[kisember]

[bleepytoys]

[Panic Button]

[tanatron]

Hi Mike, well I think that is just an other scenario.They might have an internal clock that counts the fraction of a second , as far as I know, to resolve those matters.
This is an other thing that might be resolved just by looking at kisember bid at 10 :



If noboby would bid any further I will win the game paying only $ 10.00 and not $10.01 or $11.00.
That's the point !!
If you make an other bid at $20.00 the result would be the same : I would win the auction paying only $20.00 because I made the 20 bid before you did.

Neil said:

[kisember]

[Dan]

That's interesting. The eBay proxy bid system misses a chance to add a bid increment. It sees two bids for the same amount and gives the tie to the older one, meanwhile it neglects to check for a higher bid from the winner of the tie.

I am surprised eBay missed a chance to make more money!

As a strategy, it's probably not worth the effort, though. The time it takes to enter all those bids will not be worth the savings for as often as it works. And sniping with one big bid at the end is a better strategy anyway. (And don't forget to add those some odd cents!)

[Dan]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA.....0275025787

Linda still hopes to find a working Long Bomb? I say they're all shot.